China ๐จ๐ณ is the World's Propaganda Factory
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This was originally written Monday September 11, 2023. I don't really remember what prompted me to write this, what was going through my head, but I just felt like writing about China ๐จ๐ณ, and also Taiwan ๐น๐ผ. This is apart of a series that I wrote about China ๐จ๐ณ and Taiwan ๐น๐ผ. The first two are about China ๐จ๐ณ, and then the last two are about Taiwan ๐น๐ผ. There's also an unofficial fourth entry that I wrote about China ๐จ๐ณ's opinions on North Korea ๐ฐ๐ต and what it's relationship with North Korea ๐ฐ๐ต actually is, but it's mostly just these posts and they're mostly just about China ๐จ๐ณ and Taiwan ๐น๐ผ respectively. And since I finished posting my series on Israel ๐ฎ๐ฑ, Palestine ๐ต๐ธ, Hamas, and Iran ๐ฎ๐ท, I thought I would go ahead and post these since I haven't posted anything political or historical in the past couple of weeks.
All of the stuff I've posted in the last couple of weeks have all been about entertainment, movies, TV shows, and cartoons. One of them was about an episode of a National Geographic series from the 1990s about a talking Earth ๐ teaching you about the animals of the world using the best stock footage and public domain music that Nat Geo has available. In that case, it was about dinosaurs ๐ฆ๐ฆ and also insects ๐ชฐ๐๐ชฒ, arachnids ๐ท️, and bats ๐ฆ.
In addition to this, of all the political and historical stuff I've posted on this blog, I haven't really posted anything on Asia. The only Asia related posts I've posted on here in my Politics and History categories is the one I wrote about Myanmar ๐ฒ๐ฒ and the civil war going on there, and the complicated and messy history behind all of it, and the one that I posted about the Vietnam War ๐ป๐ณ, and an alternate history scenario in-which South Vietnam and its anti-communist allies won the war instead of North Vietnam ๐ป๐ณ and its communist allies ☭.
All of the other ones have either about Africa or the Middle East. All of the Africa ones I posted were about Liberia ๐ฑ๐ท and the two brutal civil wars that happened there, and the all of the Mideast ones I posted were about the on-going situation in Israel ๐ฎ๐ฑ and Gaza, and in the Red Sea and Yemen ๐พ๐ช with the Houthis. I really didn't write that much about the Houthi situation, like I didn't write anything specifically dedicated to it and posted it on here. The most I've written about the situation in the Red Sea involving the Houthis is in the note for the last entry in the Israel-Hamas war ๐ฎ๐ฑ series where I mentioned just the current developments that had happened, all the stuff that I knew at the time that I wrote that note.
Basically, the Iranian-backed ๐ฎ๐ท Houthis started launching attacks on shipping in the Red Sea in response to the Israel-Hamas war ๐ฎ๐ฑ in Gaza from Yemen ๐พ๐ช, a country that has been in a civil war since 2014, a civil war that was largely instigated by the Houthis themselves who took the capital, Sanaa, and have held onto it since. The Houthis claimed that they were just attacking Israeli shipping ๐ฎ๐ฑ, but in reality, they were attacking American shipping ๐บ๐ธ and then European shipping ๐ช๐บ and Asian shipping. Since the United States ๐บ๐ธ had already sent aircraft carrier strike groups to the Mediterranean Sea and the Red Sea in response to the war in Gaza, it was them that began retaliating against the Houthis.
Then, the US ๐บ๐ธ built a coalition of many other countries, mostly from Europe, but also a couple from Asia, one from Oceania, one from Africa, one from the Middle East, and another one from North America, and began conducting a military operation to defend the shipping lanes in the Red Sea from further Houthi attacks, an operation they call Operation Prosperity Guardian. Now, when I saw the name of that operation, I genuinely thought that it said Operation Prosperity Garden, and I had wrote that initially when I wrote the note for the last Israel-Hamas war ๐ฎ๐ฑ post. But, then I looked at it again on Wikipedia, and it was actually Operation Prosperity Guardian ๐ . I don't know if I misread it or if someone on Wikipedia messed up and put Garden instead of Guardian. But, it's Operation Prosperity Guardian, not Operation Prosperity Garden. I corrected it on on the other note, but still.
If that wasn't enough, the Wikipedia page also kept adding countries to the belligerents list, such as Germany ๐ฉ๐ช, New Zealand ๐ณ๐ฟ, and South Korea ๐ฐ๐ท, and I edited the note a few times to add those countries since there were apart of the belligerents list on the coalition side. But, then a day or so later, those countries were removed from the list, and I had to go back and remove them. So, as of now, the official list of members in the US-lead coalition ๐บ๐ธ is the United Kingdom ๐ฌ๐ง, Greece ๐ฌ๐ท, Norway ๐ณ๐ด, the Netherlands ๐ณ๐ฑ, Denmark ๐ฉ๐ฐ, Canada ๐จ๐ฆ, Australia ๐ฆ๐บ, Singapore ๐ธ๐ฌ, Sri Lanka ๐ฑ๐ฐ, Bahrain ๐ง๐ญ, and the Seychelles ๐ธ๐จ in a purely support role.
It's like a larger scale, more souped up version of Operation Ocean Shield, the military operation in-which the US ๐บ๐ธ put together an international coalition to stop Somali pirate attacks ๐ธ๐ด๐ด☠️ in the Gulf of Aden. The Somali Civil War ๐ธ๐ด had caused many Somalis ๐ธ๐ด to turn to piracy ๐ด☠️ in order to make a living. It's almost as if civil wars happening in countries that border international shipping lanes and choke points is a bad thing. Except, here in this case, the Houthis' reasoning for attacking shipping in the Red Sea is not the same as the Somali pirates' ๐ธ๐ด๐ด☠️ reasoning for attacking shipping (or raiding shipping) in the Gulf of Aden.
The Houthis are mostly motivated by politics, and are not just in it for the money ๐ต๐ถ๐ท like the Somali pirates ๐ธ๐ด๐ด☠️ were ๐ค. They're trying to show off, show their allegiance and "solidarity" with the Palestinian cause ๐ต๐ธ when Israel ๐ฎ๐ฑ is bombing the shit out of Gaza. That's not to say there isn't a money ๐ต๐ถ๐ท component to this, there is, but the Houthis' motive for attacking international shipping has more to do with politics, and them wanting to virtue signal for lack of a better term.
I also think the coalition for Operation Prosperity Guardian is a lot smaller than the coalition for Operation Ocean Shield. Ocean Shield was a straight up NATO operation, whereas this isn't, since it features a few non-NATO countries along with all the NATO ones, which are the majority. That's not to say that non-NATO countries didn't participate in Ocean Shield, they did, but it featured a lot of NATO countries (including most of the ones involved in Prosperity Guardian right now) and the operation was still largely conducted as a NATO operation. Prosperity Guardian isn't being conducted as a NATO operation like Ocean Shield was, it's mostly being conducted as a US operation ๐บ๐ธ where the US ๐บ๐ธ works with some partners.
I say that Prosperity Guardian is larger in scale than Ocean Shield because while it features less countries in the coalition, the weapons and equipment that the enemy, the Houthis have at their disposal are far more powerful and destructive than anything the Somali pirates ๐ธ๐ด๐ด☠️ had. Like, the Houthis straight up have helicopters that they use to board ships with, whereas the Somali pirates ๐ธ๐ด๐ด☠️ only had fishing boats ๐ค basically. All of the Houthis' weapons and equipment come courtesy of Iran ๐ฎ๐ท because they are an Iranian proxy group ๐ฎ๐ท.
I mean, they aren't just an Iranian proxy ๐ฎ๐ท, they do have agency and make decisions on their own. But, they are more of an Iranian proxy ๐ฎ๐ท than Hamas is, since they are actually Shia whereas Hamas is Sunni. That's an important distinction to make because Iran ๐ฎ๐ท is a Shia theocracy, and it tends to sponsor groups that are also Shia. So, if an Islamic militant group ☪️ is Shia, then it's probably backed by Iran ๐ฎ๐ท. Hamas is the exception, one of the few if only, Sunni organization being supported by Iran ๐ฎ๐ท.
The situation right now as far as Prosperity Guardian and the Red Sea crisis as a whole goes is that the US ๐บ๐ธ and the UK ๐ฌ๐ง has launched airstrikes against Houthi bases and Houthi positions in Yemen ๐พ๐ช, which has of course sparked huge backlash and protests ๐ชง in Yemen ๐พ๐ช. I mean, why wouldn't there be? The Yemenis ๐พ๐ช have been bombed by the Saudis ๐ธ๐ฆ for the past 9 years, and they got a lot of their bombs from the Americans ๐บ๐ธ. They don't want to be bomb again, this time by the Americans ๐บ๐ธ and the British ๐ฌ๐ง. Even though, as far as I know, no civilians were actually killed in the US and UK strikes ๐บ๐ธ๐ฌ๐ง on Yemen ๐พ๐ช.
Right now, it's just a brutal back and forth between the coalition and the Houthis, with the Houthis attacking US forces ๐บ๐ธ in the Red Sea, and the US ๐บ๐ธ retaliating with strikes of its own. They are no closer to defeating the Houthis. Completely defeating and destroying a group like the Houthis is close to impossible, and that's not even the Biden administration's goal with this operation. Their goal is to deter the Houthis from attacking international shipping any further by showing what happens if they keep doing what they're doing. And what happens is that they get blown up ๐ฅ by American and British missiles and bombs ๐บ๐ธ๐ฌ๐ง. Whether any of this will work in the long run is still up in the air, and we'll just have to wait and see what happens next.
Of course, this is all happening within the broader context of attacks on US forces ๐บ๐ธ in both Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ and Syria ๐ธ๐พ by other Iranian proxies ๐ฎ๐ท. Last month, in December 2023, the US ๐บ๐ธ launched airstrikes against a Shia militia group that had carried out a drone attack against US forces ๐บ๐ธ stationed in northern Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ, the Kurdish dominated region specifically. The US ๐บ๐ธ also has military forces in the Kurdish majority region in northern Syria ๐ธ๐พ as well, since the US ๐บ๐ธ supported the Kurdish militias in both northern Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ and northern Syria ๐ธ๐พ during the Syrian Civil War ๐ธ๐พ and the war against ISIS specifically.
Which had started in Syria ๐ธ๐พ during the civil war, and then expanded to Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ, and eventually the entire world as countries in Europe, Asia, and Africa had joined the US ๐บ๐ธ in the fight against ISIS since ISIS had expanded its territory to Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ as well as Syria ๐ธ๐พ. They even expanded to Africa in places like Libya ๐ฑ๐พ, Algeria ๐ฉ๐ฟ, the Democratic Republic of the Congo ๐จ๐ฉ, Mozambique ๐ฒ๐ฟ, Uganda ๐บ๐ฌ, Mali ๐ฒ๐ฑ, Niger ๐ณ๐ช, Burkina Faso ๐ง๐ซ, Egypt ๐ช๐ฌ, Nigeria ๐ณ๐ฌ, Cameroon ๐จ๐ฒ, and Chad ๐น๐ฉ.
They also expanded to the Northern Caucasus region in Russia ๐ท๐บ in Chechnya and Dagestan, which is why ISIS attacked Russia ๐ท๐บ during this time, and why Russia ๐ท๐บ was against ISIS. They technically joined the fight against ISIS, but they did it on their own terms, and didn't not help the US ๐บ๐ธ in its efforts. In fact, Russia ๐ท๐บ was working against the US ๐บ๐ธ and its interests during the war against ISIS because instead of focusing on destroying ISIS in Syria ๐ธ๐พ, the Russians ๐ท๐บ mainly focused on helping the Assad regime destroy the pro-democracy opposition, the secular anti-Assad pro-democracy rebels. They focused more on propping up the Assad regime, and saving Bashar al-Assad's ass than eliminating ISIS targets in the country. Russia ๐ท๐บ's fight against ISIS was mainly focused on the Northern Caucasus region because it was happening within their own country, their own territory, and they were also still in the middle of fighting the Second Chechen War.
So, the only groups that the US ๐บ๐ธ could rely on to help them fight against ISIS besides their NATO allies were the Kurds, the Kurdish militias, the ones that Turkey ๐น๐ท doesn't like. And it was ultimately the Kurds that cleared northern Syria ๐ธ๐พ of ISIS militants, they were the ones who liberated Raqqa from ISIS. Not Assad's forces, and not any of Islamic militants opposed to ISIS, and even the pro-democracy rebels. It was the Kurds, and that's why the US ๐บ๐ธ supports them, much to the chagrin of the Turks ๐น๐ท.
ISIS even spread to Iran ๐ฎ๐ท itself, and Afghanistan ๐ฆ๐ซ, where they began fighting the Taliban, and have been fighting the Taliban ever since, even after the Taliban seized back control of Afghanistan ๐ฆ๐ซ and are the de facto government now. ISIS truly was a global threat during the 2010s, and they arguably are even to this day, though not as much as their heyday in the mid 2010s. Iran ๐ฎ๐ท had to deal with an ISIS attack recently in the city of Kerman, during a commemoration event marking the 4 year anniversary of the death of Qasem Soleimani, the IRGC general that the US ๐บ๐ธ had killed with an airstrike in Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ back in 2020. Iran ๐ฎ๐ท even retaliated against ISIS for the attack in Kerman with airstrikes in Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ, Syria ๐ธ๐พ, and even Pakistan ๐ต๐ฐ that the US ๐บ๐ธ described as "reckless."
Like I said in a note in a previous post, Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ and Syria ๐ธ๐พ have both become places where countries bomb terrorists and militias that they don't like. And I guess Yemen ๐พ๐ช is also joining that category, what with how many times that country has been bombed by Saudi Arabia ๐ธ๐ฆ and its allies, the United Arab Emirates ๐ฆ๐ช, Bahrain ๐ง๐ญ, Qatar ๐ถ๐ฆ, Egypt ๐ช๐ฌ, Jordan ๐ฏ๐ด, and Morocco ๐ฒ๐ฆ. And now, the US ๐บ๐ธ and the UK ๐ฌ๐ง have joined the group of countries that have bombed Yemen ๐พ๐ช to kill terrorists or militia groups they don’t like, in this case, the Houthis, who the Saudis ๐ธ๐ฆ were also mainly targeting in their military intervention in the Yemeni Civil War ๐พ๐ช.
That's not to say that the US ๐บ๐ธ hasn't struck Yemen ๐พ๐ช before in the past. They've struck Yemen ๐พ๐ช numerous time before the War on Terror and during the War on Terror against al-Qaeda, who has had foothold in Yemen ๐พ๐ช since 1998. Don't forget, the al-Qaeda attack on the USS Cole in 2000 happened off the coast of Yemen ๐พ๐ช and it was carried out by al-Qaeda from Yemen ๐พ๐ช. Since the beginning of the 21st century, and there has not been time when the US ๐บ๐ธ has not conducted some sort of airstrike on Yemen ๐พ๐ช.
It's just that now, the US ๐บ๐ธ is targeting the Houthis, a group that they really didn't pay that much attention to until the Yemeni Civil War ๐พ๐ช happened, and the US ๐บ๐ธ supported Saudi Arabia ๐ธ๐ฆ's intervention in the war by supplying them with weapons. Most of, if not all of Saudi Arabia ๐ธ๐ฆ's military weaponry and equipment is from the US ๐บ๐ธ. And the Houthis are not a new group, you know, they didn't just emerge from the civil war. They've been around since the 1990s. They emerged in 1994, and have been active inside Yemen ๐พ๐ช ever since. Now, they've become an international problem, not just a Yemeni problem ๐พ๐ช. And now, because of the civil war, and the Houthis, al-Qaeda, and ISIS specifically, Yemen ๐พ๐ช has become yet another Middle Eastern country that's bombed by outside powers to eliminate terrorists or militias, any non-state actor that they consider a threat or a nuisance.
It's not even just the US ๐บ๐ธ, the UK ๐ฌ๐ง, Iran ๐ฎ๐ท, Saudi Arabia ๐ธ๐ฆ, and Russia ๐ท๐บ that do this, it's also Turkey ๐น๐ท, who has bombed both Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ and Syria ๐ธ๐พ on more than one occasion, including three months ago in October, when the Kurdish political party/militia/terrorist group called the PKK (Kurdistan Workers' Party) committed a terrorist attack against Turkey ๐น๐ท, in its capital, Ankara, and Turkey ๐น๐ท bombed both Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ and Syria ๐ธ๐พ in response. The US ๐บ๐ธ also accidentally shot down a Turkish drone ๐น๐ท that was taking part in those retaliatory strikes. This all happened the same week that the Hamas attack on Israel ๐ฎ๐ฑ on October 7 happened, just a few days before it happened.
Even the UAE ๐ฆ๐ช has sort engaged in some questionable behavior during the Yemeni Civil War ๐พ๐ช, as the Emirati government ๐ฆ๐ช began hiring mercenaries, American mercenaries ๐บ๐ธ specifically, to carry out assassinations against people who they claimed were terrorists, but were often politicians or political activists that were apart of political movements that the Emiratis ๐ฆ๐ช didn't like and saw as a threat, such as the Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamist movement and organization ☪️ that exists in countries in the Middle East and North Africa like Egypt ๐ช๐ฌ, Bahrain ๐ง๐ญ, Turkey ๐น๐ท, Iran ๐ฎ๐ท (sort of), Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ, Jordan ๐ฏ๐ด, Qatar ๐ถ๐ฆ, Kuwait ๐ฐ๐ผ, Saudi Arabia ๐ธ๐ฆ, Syria ๐ธ๐พ, Algeria ๐ฉ๐ฟ, the UAE ๐ฆ๐ช itself, Libya ๐ฑ๐พ, Mauritania ๐ฒ๐ท, Morocco ๐ฒ๐ฆ, Sudan ๐ธ๐ฉ, Tunisia ๐น๐ณ, Israel ๐ฎ๐ฑ (sort of), Palestine ๐ต๐ธ of course (Hamas is an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood), and of course, Yemen ๐พ๐ช itself. Something that got those American mercenaries ๐บ๐ธ in trouble. They were arrested and charged with war crimes for participating in extrajudicial killings against civilians in a foreign country. Basically, helping the Emiratis ๐ฆ๐ช kill their political enemies in Yemen ๐พ๐ช under the guise of counterterrorism. But, the mercs insist that they're innocent, and that they didn't do anything wrong, and that they did kill actual terrorists. The BBC did a video about it, you can go check out.
But, anyway, I've talked enough about this. The point is that all of the political stuff I've posted on the blog so far has been about what's happening in the Middle East, and that's where most of the world's attention is at, and what all the headlines are about. I know that I veered off course into a tangent about terrorism, but to be fair, the Chinese government ๐จ๐ณ did use terrorism as an excuse to crackdown on the Uyghurs in Xinjiang, and subjugate them, persecute them, erase their identity and culture, and ultimately bring them to heel. Which they have successfully done, unfortunately. Xinjiang is now a shell of its former self, and has been thoroughly been Sinicized.
The Uyghurs have been forced to dress and act more "Chinese," and are being purposefully outpopulated by Han Chinese. It's an official government official to encourage more Han Chinese people to move into Xinjiang, and replace the Uyghurs as the majority. The Uyghur language has been replaced by Mandarin as the dominant language in the region, and Xinjiang as a whole has pretty much been turned into a tourist destination where Chinese people ๐จ๐ณ and foreigners are given a very sanitized, Disneyfied, and government approved version of Uyghur culture and history.
Speaking of Disney, what makes the whole Uyghur situation even worse is that a company like Disney was complicit in it, willingly filming the live action Mulan movie next to the very concentration camps that the Chinese government ๐จ๐ณ has detained thousands, if not, millions of Uyghurs in, and thanking the government bureau or department in charge of running those concentration camps. This was a case where evil had prevailed, and the entire rest of the world allowed it prevail. Now, let's talk about how Chinese propaganda ๐จ๐ณ is bad, and China ๐จ๐ณ produces propaganda for other besides itself.
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China ๐จ๐ณ is not just the world's factory when it comes to consumer goods, they're also the world's factory when it comes to propaganda as well. They not only produce propaganda for their own country, but they also produce propaganda for Russia ๐ท๐บ, North Korea ๐ฐ๐ต, Iran ๐ฎ๐ท, Syria ๐ธ๐พ, Venezuela ๐ป๐ช, Belarus ๐ง๐พ, Myanmar ๐ฒ๐ฒ, Afghanistan ๐ฆ๐ซ (under Taliban control), and of course, Cuba ๐จ๐บ.
Any country that's authoritarian and is friendly with Beijing, they will produce propaganda for them, praising them, making them look as good as possible, while making western countries like the US ๐บ๐ธ, the UK ๐ฌ๐ง, France ๐ซ๐ท, Germany ๐ฉ๐ช, Canada ๐จ๐ฆ, and Australia ๐ฆ๐บ, and western aligned countries like Japan ๐ฏ๐ต, South Korea ๐ฐ๐ท, Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ, India ๐ฎ๐ณ (sort of), and Taiwan ๐น๐ผ look as bad as possible. And a lot of this propaganda is not targeted at the domestic Chinese audience ๐จ๐ณ, but it is in fact targeted at western audience, trying to convince them that their own countries are bad, while China ๐จ๐ณ is good.
China ๐จ๐ณ's perfectly innocent, it's not trying to do anything bad, it's not threatening its neighbors with military force or economic coercion, it's not committing a genocide within its borders. China ๐จ๐ณ's only using its power to make the world a better place, and everyone benefits from a China ๐จ๐ณ that's on top of the world. Not the US ๐บ๐ธ, the US ๐บ๐ธ is inherently evil empire that's making the world a more chaotic and violent place by meddling in everyone's affairs, forcing everyone to do things their way or the highway, and trying to be the world's police. They lie, cheat, and steal, they cannot be trusted under circumstance. Not like China ๐จ๐ณ, China ๐จ๐ณ can totally be trusted, in fact, they're the only country you should trust. That's the basic message of a lot of this Chinese propaganda ๐จ๐ณ.
Or when something happens in the world, especially in Africa or Asia, China ๐จ๐ณ not only tries to take advantage of it, but also propagandizes about it, and trying to find a way to make it the West's fault. Like, they were one of the first governments in the world to recognize the Taliban after they took control of Afghanistan ๐ฆ๐ซ in 2021, and have used their propaganda apparatuses and their simps in the West try to rehabilitate the Taliban's image, and try to make them look good, friendly, and peaceful (and not like the terrorists that they are), and make the war seem like nothing more than Western aggression towards an innocent little country in Central Asia. All so that Chinese firms ๐จ๐ณ can gain mining concessions ⛏️ for Afghanistan ๐ฆ๐ซ's vast natural resources.
The Taliban have indeed welcomed Chinese companies ๐จ๐ณ into the country, and have allowed them mine for gold, copper, iron ore, barite, lithium, chromite, lead, talc, zinc, as well as precious and semi-precious stones. The USGS ๐บ๐ธ has estimated that Afghanistan ๐ฆ๐ซ has about $1 trillion ๐ต worth of untapped minerals, and China ๐จ๐ณ now has near unlimited access to it. Some of these minerals are necessary to making electrical wiring, semi-conductors, and smartphone batteries, mainly iron ore, copper, and lithium.
They also want access to the oil ๐ข️ and natural gas ๐ฅ that's in the country as well; BTW oil production ๐ข️ in Afghanistan ๐ฆ๐ซ only began in late 2012, so no, the War in Afghanistan ๐ฆ๐ซ was not over oil ๐ข️ like some overly conspiratorial anti-American leftists ๐ซ๐บ๐ธ have suggested over the years since the invasion in 2001 ๐; anyone who says the War in Afghanistan ๐ฆ๐ซ was over oil ๐ข️ is an idiot ๐ค!; even then, Afghanistan ๐ฆ๐ซ is still not one of the top oil producers ๐ข️ in the world, I don't think it's even in the top 10.
They defended the Omar al-Bashir regime in Sudan ๐ธ๐ฉ when they were being accused of war crimes and genocide in Darfur. And I wouldn't be surprised if China ๐จ๐ณ has also tried using the current civil war in Sudan ๐ธ๐ฉ to its advantage, and not only supports the government forces over the RSF, but has propagandized about it and tried to make the whole thing the West's fault or make it seem like the West wants to intervene, even though they don't.
They supported the Kazakh government ๐ฐ๐ฟ when all those anti-government and pro-democracy protests ๐ชง were going on in early 2022, saying in their propaganda channels that the whole thing was a Western attempt to destabilize Kazakhstan ๐ฐ๐ฟ and overthrow the government there ๐; you know, the same BS Russia ๐ท๐บ always says whenever protests ๐ชง happen in a post-Soviet country that has a friendly government to them. And they of course Russia ๐ท๐บ's actions in helping the Kazakh government ๐ฐ๐ฟ put down the protests ๐ชง; something that Russia ๐ท๐บ used its military alliance, CSTO to do.
It's sort of like the Warsaw Pact in that way. The only real military operation the Warsaw Pact conducted was the 1968 invasion of Czechoslovakia ๐จ๐ฟ, called Operation Danube, where they invaded Czechoslovakia ๐จ๐ฟ just to stop the country from liberalizing. And just like how the Warsaw Pact of the Cold War didn't join the Soviet Union ☭ in its invasion of Afghanistan ๐ฆ๐ซ, none of the CSTO members joined Russia ๐ท๐บ in its invasion of Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ, and indeed, Russia ๐ท๐บ didn't invoke Article 4 to justify a CSTO invasion of Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ, and just decided to invade Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ itself. Article 4 BTW is the CSTO's equivalent to NATO's Article 5. Most people agree that the CSTO wouldn't actually stand a chance in a fight against NATO. The military imbalance is just way too great, and NATO would easily decimate the CSTO in a war between the two.
That is if CSTO even still exists by the time war breaks out between NATO and Russia ๐ท๐บ, if one ever breaks out. Since many of the other member states are starting to doubt the validity and the viability of the alliance given that they've all seen Russia ๐ท๐บ's dismal performance in the war in Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ, and their inability to conquer the entire country, or even take the capital city, Kyiv. And also because Russia ๐ท๐บ has failed to live up to its security commitments to the other member states, largely because of the invasion of Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ. Especially Armenia ๐ฆ๐ฒ, who is pissed at Russia ๐ท๐บ for failing to stop the Azerbaijani advance ๐ฆ๐ฟ into Nagorno-Karabakh back in September 2023. So, this organization, this alliance could easily fall apart in the next few years, thanks to Putin's decision to invade Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ.)
They've supported and defended the Assad regime in Syria ๐ธ๐พ on multiple occasions during the Syrian Civil War ๐ธ๐พ, and supported Russia ๐ท๐บ's actions during that war; which included indiscriminate bombings of Syrian cities ๐ธ๐พ like Aleppo, and killing and abusing civilians; some of those war crimes were committed the Russian mercenary company ๐ท๐บ, Wagner Group. They've accused the West (mainly the US ๐บ๐ธ) of plotting to overthrow Bashar al-Assad just like they did Saddam Hussein in Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ.
They've even dismissed the claims that Assad has used chemical weapons ☣️ against the opposition forces and against civilians during the war, even though there's mountains of evidence support the claims that he did, and they have given credence to conspiracy theories that the whole thing was made up by the West to vilify Assad and justify an Iraq-style invasion ๐ฎ๐ถ; none of which is true. I mean, Barack Obama was trying everything he could to AVOID intervening in Syria ๐ธ๐พ because he didn't want to break his campaign promise of not intervening in the Middle East, and because he didn't want to be compared to George W. Bush and make the same mistakes he made.
He didn't even enforce his own red lines when Assad violated them; and in the end, he only deployed a thousand troops; not exactly what I would call a full scale invasion. Even then, the main point of the intervention was fighting ISIS, not Assad and a lot of the coalition fighting was done through airstrikes, not with ground forces, although ground forces did do quite a bit.
Obama again went out of his way to make sure the US forces ๐บ๐ธ and the coalition did not go after Assad's forces, and only focused on attacking ISIS and other Islamic militant groups ☪️ in the country during the war, although they did also go after Hezbollah, an Iranian-backed Shia militia group and political party ๐ฎ๐ท based in Lebanon ๐ฑ๐ง; most of the strikes against Assad's forces during the war happened during the Trump administration and only a few during Obama's.
BTW, US forces ๐บ๐ธ did engage the Wagner Group on multiple occasions in Syria ๐ธ๐พ during the war, and I think they even killed some of them; making this one of the few times in history where Americans ๐บ๐ธ have fought Russians ๐ท๐บ directly on a battlefield, in an active war zone, even if said Russians ๐ท๐บ were not an official part of the Russian military ๐ท๐บ. Despite this though, the Wagner Group is not officially recognized by the US government ๐บ๐ธ as a terrorist organization, only as a criminal organization (which, yeah, they are too); they are recognized as a terrorist organization by France ๐ซ๐ท, Estonia ๐ช๐ช, Lithuania ๐ฑ๐น, Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ, and the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly.
They've also defended the military junta in Myanmar ๐ฒ๐ฒ after they carried out a coup against the government of Aung San Suu Kyi in 2021, and after the military junta was accused of committing war crimes and genocide against the various ethnic groups in the country (again); dismissing those claims as "Western propaganda"; how typical ๐; it really isn't surprising that China ๐จ๐ณ defends genocidal regimes like those in Myanmar ๐ฒ๐ฒ or Sudan ๐ธ๐ฉ (before the coup) considering they're doing the same thing on their own territory.
They've also supported and defended Russia ๐ท๐บ's involvement in the Central African Civil War ๐จ๐ซ, even though Russia ๐ท๐บ's involvement was mainly through the Wagner Group. But, the Wagner Group was spreading Russian influence ๐ท๐บ, and carrying out Russian interests ๐ท๐บ in the Central African Republic ๐จ๐ซ, and in other African countries, including Mali ๐ฒ๐ฑ, Guinea ๐ฌ๐ณ, Burkina Faso ๐ง๐ซ, Mozambique ๐ฒ๐ฟ, and Niger ๐ณ๐ช.
Speaking of which, in addition to supporting violent and kleptocratic regimes and dictators and denying war crimes and genocide, I would not be surprised if China ๐จ๐ณ and its army of simps in the West have also produced propaganda supporting the various coups in West Africa over the past year or so, even if a lot of those coup plotters and coup supporters were pro-Russian ๐ท๐บ; the only exception or odd one out is Gabon ๐ฌ๐ฆ; the military has not voiced any pro-Russian opinions ๐ท๐บ, nor have any of the coup supporters to my knowledge; plus, I do think that China ๐จ๐ณ and Russia ๐ท๐บ both supported the Ali Bongo Ondimba regime, so I'm not even sure if they're okay with the coup or not. But, China ๐จ๐ณ still supports anything that's pro-Russian ๐ท๐บ because anything pro-Russian ๐ท๐บ is pro-Chinese ๐จ๐ณ by proxy, and China ๐จ๐ณ is just okay with anything that's anti-western in general.
Speaking of which, there also tends to be a lot of overlap between China simps ๐จ๐ณ and Russia simps ๐ท๐บ, like you can't be a contrarian Westerner simping for China ๐จ๐ณ, while not also be simping for Russia ๐ท๐บ; you kind of have to simp for both. A lot Chinese talking points ๐จ๐ณ are also Russian talking points ๐ท๐บ because the Chinese government ๐จ๐ณ, the Chinese Communist Party ๐จ๐ณ☭, supports the Putin regime, Xi Jinping supports Putin.
They have stood by Russia ๐ท๐บ throughout their invasion of Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ, amplifying Russian talking points ๐ท๐บ; all the BS post-hoc justifications for the invasion like how it was all about NATO, or how Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ was persecuting Russian speakers and ethnic Russians in Donbas, or how there are bio-labs ☣️ in Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ producing biological and chemical weapons ☣️ ๐; which is pretty ironic considering they defended Assad's use of chemical weapons ☣️, making excuses for him, and saying that he never used anyway, despite the countless evidence saying otherwise ๐; now they're using chemical and biological weapons ☣️ as a BS post hoc casus belli for Russia ๐ท๐บ's invasion of Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ, shame China ๐จ๐ณ, shame; they're doing the very thing they accused the Americans ๐บ๐ธ of doing with Assad, which is lying about chemical weapons ☣️ to justify a war.
It's all the more ironic when you consider that China supporters ๐จ๐ณ in the West have made false accusations about the US ๐บ๐ธ lying about chemical and biological weapons ☣️ in China ๐จ๐ณ during the COVID-19 pandemic ๐ฆ ๐ท. I remember this one guy ♂︎, Daniel Dumbrill was saying this in one of his videos during the pandemic ๐ท that the US ๐บ๐ธ was falsifying intelligence about China ๐จ๐ณ possessing weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) like chemical and biological weapons ☣️ in Shenzhen or Shanghai or some other Chinese city ๐จ๐ณ in the southern or eastern part of the country. Like, he said that the US ๐บ๐ธ was saying that the Chinese government ๐จ๐ณ was developing WMDs there inside one of these factories. And he said that reason why the US ๐บ๐ธ was doing this was to justify an Iraq-style invasion ๐ฎ๐ถ ๐คฆ♂️.
Yes, these people really do just keep bringing up the Iraq War ๐ฎ๐ถ in order to discredit any American criticism ๐บ๐ธ towards China ๐จ๐ณ, or American concern ๐บ๐ธ about China ๐จ๐ณ ๐ because it's the only thing they really have. It's the one war that they can point to (besides the Vietnam War ๐ป๐ณ) as an example of unjustifiable war of aggression by the US ๐บ๐ธ, or as an example of American imperialism ๐บ๐ธ; American leaders ๐บ๐ธ lying about a country to cynically start a war over natural resources or to assert American dominance ๐บ๐ธ. If it's not Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ, then it's Libya ๐ฑ๐พ, and if it's not Libya ๐ฑ๐พ, it's Syria ๐ธ๐พ, and if it's not Syria ๐ธ๐พ, then it's Panama ๐ต๐ฆ.
But, the US invasion of Panama ๐บ๐ธ๐ต๐ฆ was so long ago, and has largely been forgotten that most of these people don't bring it up at all; the invasion of Panama ๐ต๐ฆ happened in December 1989 and ended in January 1990 under President George H.W. Bush (Bush Sr.) just in case you were wondering. Oh, and Kosovo ๐ฝ๐ฐ, can't forget about Kosovo ๐ฝ๐ฐ, these people love to bring that up from time-to-time, but not to same extent as any of those other ones I mentioned; partially because it wasn't as recent as any of those other conflicts I mentioned. So, Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ is usually the go-to.
But, all they do is perpetuate myths and conspiracy theories about the Iraq War ๐ฎ๐ถ that just aren't true, that are objectively false if you were to look at the Iraq War ๐ฎ๐ถ in a non-biased and good faith way. And they're just doing this to excuse or obfuscate China ๐จ๐ณ's actions, China ๐จ๐ณ's crimes and imperialistic ambitions, and believe me, China ๐จ๐ณ does have imperialist ambitions; I mean, just look at their Belt & Road Initiative. And since this was during the backdrop of the pandemic ๐ท, they really hated when the West was criticizing China ๐จ๐ณ's response to the virus ๐ฆ , and when the West was suggesting that the virus ๐ฆ escaped from a lab in Wuhan, the place where the pandemic ๐ท started (a theory that has not been proven and many scientists around the world are skeptical of); so they were really trying extra hard to defend China ๐จ๐ณ, and dismiss any and all criticisms towards the regime, constructive or not.
Obviously none of what Dumbrill said was actually true. The US ๐บ๐ธ was not claiming that China ๐จ๐ณ was holding WMD stockpiles in Shenzhen or Shanghai or wherever, and they were not trying to use it to justify an invasion of China ๐จ๐ณ similar to the invasion of Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ. The US ๐บ๐ธ doesn't want to invade China ๐จ๐ณ, that's the very last thing they want to do; just the mere thought of a such thing fills American policymakers ๐บ๐ธ with dread.
If anything, they've been trying everything they can to avoid a war with China ๐จ๐ณ. Even going as far as saying that they want China ๐จ๐ณ to succeed, but only by the rules. As in, within the bounds of international law, which China ๐จ๐ณ continues to violate in regards to their South China Sea claims as well as their genocide against the Uyghur people in Xinjiang. But anyway, back to Chinese propaganda ๐จ๐ณ about the war in Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ.
The Chinese public ๐จ๐ณ (for the most part) has fully bought into Russia ๐ท๐บ's narrative about the war in Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ, and is fully convinced that they are fully justified in what they are doing, or at the very least, they are indifferent to it, and don't think it's a big deal, and that it doesn't affect them at all; those Chinese people ๐จ๐ณ are wrong, it does affect them, mostly in regards to whether the Chinese government ๐จ๐ณ, and Xi in particular, calculates from watching it unfold whether a full-scale invasion of Taiwan ๐น๐ผ is actually worth it or not; something that would affect the lives of every Chinese citizen ๐จ๐ณ if it ever came to pass.
All of this is thanks to the efforts of Chinese propaganda channels ๐จ๐ณ for the domestic audience, from how Chinese media ๐จ๐ณ frames the war in Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ for the Chinese public ๐จ๐ณ. And it even isn't just the Chinese people ๐จ๐ณ or even Westerners (Americans ๐บ๐ธ, British ๐ฌ๐ง, Canadians ๐จ๐ฆ, French ๐ซ๐ท, Germans ๐ฉ๐ช, etc.), it's people in other countries that are more sympathetic to Russia ๐ท๐บ or are lukewarm about Russia ๐ท๐บ (meaning that aren't directly allied to Russia ๐ท๐บ, or friendly with Russia ๐ท๐บ, but are tolerant of them and just see them as a regular country) like India ๐ฎ๐ณ, Hungary ๐ญ๐บ, Turkey ๐น๐ท, various African countries, various Latin American countries, the Solomon Islands ๐ธ๐ง (a country that's aligned with China ๐จ๐ณ), the Maldives ๐ฒ๐ป (a country is also aligned with China ๐จ๐ณ, but is having a referendum on the country's current pro-Chinese leadership ๐จ๐ณ which may lead to the country decoupling from China ๐จ๐ณ and moving closer to the West if the opposition wins), Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ, and even Mexico ๐ฒ๐ฝ.
I read a comment on YouTube from a Mexican ๐ฒ๐ฝ saying that their government and their media has repeatedly towed the Russian line ๐ท๐บ, and has pushed Russian propaganda ๐ท๐บ about the war in Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ; even if the person in question commenting didn't agree with it personally. This likely due to Mexico ๐ฒ๐ฝ's more positive stance on both China ๐จ๐ณ and Russia ๐ท๐บ, the Mexican elite ๐ฒ๐ฝ were likely influenced by both countries and their propaganda about the war; that, and their less favorable view of the United States ๐บ๐ธ, Mexico ๐ฒ๐ฝ's neighbor to the north.
All this, while China ๐จ๐ณ still refuses to give Russia ๐ท๐บ direct military aid, despite Putin pleading to them to give them more weapons and ammunition. Like, the Chinese ๐จ๐ณ are willing to help Russia ๐ท๐บ out in the propaganda war, voicing support for and justifying Russia ๐ท๐บ's actions, amplifying all of their talking points, and blaming everything on the West.
But, they aren't willing to actually help them out in the actual shooting war on the ground; probably because they know doing so would not actually be in their strategic best interests, since they would be sanctioned too, and they don't need that right now; their economy is already struggling without Western sanctions; and plus, Russia ๐ท๐บ's losing, and has shown incredible weakness, and a hilarious inability to overpower and overtake Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ on the battlefield, so why help them militarily at all if they're already a lost cause at this point?
In fact, China ๐จ๐ณ has refused to sell weapons and ammunition to Russia ๐ท๐บ so much, that Russia ๐ท๐บ literally had to turn to North Korea ๐ฐ๐ต to get weapons and ammunition. Russian defense minister ๐ท๐บ, Sergei Shoigu traveled to Pyongyang in July, and Kim Jong-un met Vladimir Putin in Russia ๐ท๐บ (probably Vladivostok since it's the closest Russian city ๐ท๐บ to North Korea ๐ฐ๐ต, or perhaps all the way to Moscow; he is going by train, he could take the Trans-Siberian Railroad) recently, in early September; it was all over the news.
A lot of western analysts believe the meeting between Kim and Putin is to strike a weapons deal where North Korea ๐ฐ๐ต will provide ammunition and perhaps even weapons to the ammunition and weapons strapped Russia ๐ท๐บ for their war in Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ in exchange for nuclear weapons technology ☢️ to boost North Korea ๐ฐ๐ต's nuclear program ☢️, and even help with their satellite technology to launch a military or spy satellite into orbit. Russia ๐ท๐บ likely made a similar deal with Iran ๐ฎ๐ท to get those Shahed 131 drones. And it's been reported that Shoigu even suggested that Russia ๐ท๐บ and North Korea ๐ฐ๐ต may start conducting joint military exercises together, something they haven't been done in decades, likely since the Soviet Union ☭ was a thing.
Now, China ๐จ๐ณ's position on Russia ๐ท๐บ and the war in Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ may seem pretty confusing. Like, why would China ๐จ๐ณ not provide any military aid to Russia ๐ท๐บ when they said their "friendship" had "no limits" just a few weeks before the invasion started, and when China ๐จ๐ณ clearly has more modern and sophisticated military weaponry than the two countries that Russia ๐ท๐บ is currently getting weapons and ammunition from: Iran ๐ฎ๐ท and North Korea ๐ฐ๐ต? Well, think of it like this: China ๐จ๐ณ wants to support Russia ๐ท๐บ and what it's doing in Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ while taking as little risk as possible.
The communist regime ☭ in China ๐จ๐ณ is quite risk averse (at least compared to the Putin regime in Russia ๐ท๐บ), and they don't want to do anything that will hurt their economy in any way, because they know that their economy is the source of their global political power. Their economy is literally the only reason why people say that they're a superpower or a potential superpower. And the Chinese ๐จ๐ณ know that if they support the Russians ๐ท๐บ too openly and too directly, than they will be targeted by the West, and have severe sanctions placed on them, something that would only hurt their stagnating and even declining economy even more.
China ๐จ๐ณ wants Russia ๐ท๐บ to win the war (clearly), but not if it'll cost them their own economic strength and global influence. So, that's why they've refused to give Russia ๐ท๐บ military aid, and only voiced propaganda support for Russia ๐ท๐บ's aggression in Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ. They've pretty much decided to leave the direct military aid to Iran ๐ฎ๐ท and North Korea ๐ฐ๐ต because those two countries are already pariahs on the global stage. That way, they can be the patsies and take the fall if the war ends in a Russian defeat ๐ท๐บ ๐, and the whole thing blows up in their faces. China ๐จ๐ณ will be hurt in the long term after a Russian defeat ๐ท๐บ in the Ukraine war ๐บ๐ฆ, but not in the short term, and China ๐จ๐ณ is only really thinking about the short term here.
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Update (Friday October 20, 2023):
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Remember how I said that Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ is one of the countries that's lukewarm about Russia ๐ท๐บ? Well, as it turns out, that's a little complicated. You see, despite Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ maintaining good relations with Russia ๐ท๐บ, the president, Ukhnaagiin Khรผrelsรผkh put out a video during the onset on the Russian invasion of Ukraine ๐ท๐บ๐บ๐ฆ, warning the ethnic minorities in Siberia that the Russian military ๐ท๐บ was conscripting them and using them as canon fodder in the war in Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ; which is definitely true, the Russian military ๐ท๐บ is using ethnic minorities in the country as canon fodder in the war against Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ. He also told them that they are more than welcome to come to Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ seek asylum, and avoid conscription. On top of that, he was wearing a Ukrainian pin ๐บ๐ฆ or Ukrainian bow ๐บ๐ฆ when he was issuing this warning, clearly showing solidarity with Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ.
My guess is that Khรผrelsรผkh was mostly directing his message towards the ethnic Mongolic Buryat people who mainly live in the Russian republic ๐ท๐บ, Buryatia. Makes sense right? He's welcoming ethnic Mongols to come live in Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ, and these ethnic Mongols are facing the brunt of Russian conscription ๐ท๐บ during the war in Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ.
But, I do think he did mean other non-Mongolic Siberian peoples as well, other ethnic minorities in Siberia who live in poverty, and are being conscripted into Putin's war of aggression, like Tuvans for instance; Tuvans are an ethnic group who share a lot of cultural similarities with Mongols (they have throat singing just like Mongols do), but are a Turkic people who speak a Turkic language, which the Mongols aren't; the Mongols are a distinct ethnic group from the Turks, and speak a distinct language. And let's not forget, Buryats are not the only Mongolic ethnic group in Russia ๐ท๐บ, there's also the Kalmyks, who mainly live in the Republic of Kalmykia, although that republic is in Southern Russia ๐ท๐บ, as oppose to Buryatia, which is in Siberia (the Russian Far-East ๐ท๐บ).
So, I think Khรผrelsรผkh is welcome any and all ethnic minority groups in Russia ๐ท๐บ that want to escape conscriptions, and even ethnic Russians as well. Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ has become a popular destination for ethnic Russians who want to flee the country to escape conscription or mobilization, or just to escape the increasingly totalitarian rule of Vladimir Putin. It's easy for them because Russian is a commonly spoken language in Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ.
I mean, Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ has historically been in Russia ๐ท๐บ's sphere of influence, ever since it first gained independence from China, after the dissolution of the Qing Dynasty, and the end of imperial rule in China overall in 1912; it lost its independence to the Republic of China (ROC) ๐น๐ผ for a brief time, but regained it in 1921. Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ became a communist state ☭ (called the Mongolian People's Republic) in 1924, and was firmly a Soviet client state ☭ up until 1992 after the Soviet Union ☭ collapsed.
The communist regime ☭ in Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ was disbanded and replaced with the government Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ still has today thanks to a new constitution being adopted, and the communist party ☭, the Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party ๐ฒ๐ณ essentially being forced to step down to allow multi-party elections to take place; Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ had become a democracy. Despite this, that party is still around, it's still part of mainstream Mongolian politics ๐ฒ๐ณ, but it changed its name to the Mongolian People's Party ๐ฒ๐ณ, and it abandoned Marxist-Leninism in favor of democratic socialism.
Yes, right wingers, they are completely different ideologies, and they do not correlate with one another, nor does one necessarily lead to the other; democratic socialism or social democracy does not automatically lead to Marxist-Leninism. Most Marxist-Leninist states throughout history have established through violent or forceful methods, whether through violent revolution, through civil war, or through coup d'รฉtat, or were installed by a foreign invading power (*cough* the Soviet Union ☭ *cough* *cough* Vietnam ๐ป๐ณ *cough*); there hasn't been a Marxist-Leninist state that I can think of that started out as a democratic socialist state and then became Marxist-Leninist. A couple or a few Marxist-Leninist states may have come to power through a democratic process, but they're Marxist-Leninist from the get-go; it's not that they're democratic socialist and then become Marxist-Leninist, they are always Marxist-Leninist from the beginning. Anyway, back to the Mongolian People's Party ๐ฒ๐ณ.
The current Mongolian president ๐ฒ๐ณ, Khรผrelsรผkh, the guy I've been talking about throughout this update, is in fact a member of the Mongolian People's Party ๐ฒ๐ณ. He was their candidate for the 2021 presidential election, which he won handsomely as you can see; to this day, it remains the oldest political party in Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ. So, yeah, long story short, of course Russian was going to be a common language in the country, even to this day. Even the Mongolian language itself uses the Cyrillic alphabet in most official script just like Russian does, although the Mongolians ๐ฒ๐ณ do still maintain the old traditional Mongolian alphabet/script (the one that's written vertically top down), but most official Mongolian documents ๐ฒ๐ณ today are written in the Cyrillic alphabet.
It's pretty surprising to see the President of Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ take such an overtly pro-Ukrainian stance ๐บ๐ฆ, and actually warn non-Russian ethnic groups living in Russia ๐ท๐บ (in Siberia) about being conscripted in the war, and telling them that they can come to Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ for refuge if they wish, despite his government's official pro-Russian stance ๐ท๐บ. I mean, I still Mongolian officials ๐ฒ๐ณ are still meeting with Russian officials ๐ท๐บ in Ulaanbaatar (Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ's capital) and probably in Moscow (Russia ๐ท๐บ's capital) too.
How is that? How is it that the Mongolian president ๐ฒ๐ณ can film a video warning Siberians that the Russian military ๐ท๐บ is conscripting them to fight in Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ and using them as canon fodder, and telling them they can escape to Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ, and yet still maintain a healthy and friendly relation with Putin's Russia ๐ท๐บ? Why would he want to do that? Why would the Mongolian government ๐ฒ๐ณ want to do that?
Well, my guess is that the Mongolians ๐ฒ๐ณ want to maintain good relations with the Russians ๐ท๐บ because they don't want to face the wrath of Russia ๐ท๐บ's military might themselves; they don't want to be attacked by Russia ๐ท๐บ at a time when Russia ๐ท๐บ has already invaded one of its neighbors. Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ directly borders Russia ๐ท๐บ, it shares a massive land border with Russia ๐ท๐บ, and Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ's military isn't anywhere near as large or powerful as Russia ๐ท๐บ's. So, in the event of a war, Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ would likely have a tough time defending itself against Russia ๐ท๐บ, unless it had outside help; if other countries were supplying military aid like the Ukrainians ๐บ๐ฆ are receiving.
It's a complete reversal of the military dynamic centuries ago, when it was the Mongols who were more powerful militarily, and it was the Russians who were militarily weaker and feared the military might of the Mongols; the Russians and other peoples of the Kyivan Rus' that faced the brunt of the Mongol Empire's expansion into Europe; they even learned a thing or two from the Mongols, things that they would use in their own imperialist expansion into Siberia.
So, from Ulaanbaatar's perspective, it's better to stay on Moscow's good side for now, than to be openly hostile towards them, even if they disagree with their decision to invade Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ, and disagree with their decision to mainly conscript ethnic minorities in the country like the Mongolic Buryat people rather than ethnic Russians who mostly live west of the Ural Mountains in European Russia ๐ท๐บ; ethnic Russians who live in cities like Moscow or Saint Petersburg aren't facing the brunt of the war, and don't have to face the reality of the war.
Besides, Russia ๐ท๐บ is losing the war against Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ, the Ukrainians ๐บ๐ฆ are kicking the Russians' asses ๐ท๐บ, and the Russians' military capabilities ๐ท๐บ are being degraded. So, the Mongolians ๐ฒ๐ณ don't even have to be all that openly hostile towards the Russians ๐ท๐บ or be all that openly friendly towards the Ukrainians ๐บ๐ฆ. They can just keep things business as usual, and wait for the Russian military ๐ท๐บ to be weakened the point that it's no longer a threat to them.
So, we can see why the Mongolians ๐ฒ๐ณ may be maintaining good relations with the Russians ๐ท๐บ despite them disagreeing with them on Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ. But, why are the Russians ๐ท๐บ okay with this? Why are they okay with the Mongolians ๐ฒ๐ณ taking a more pro-Ukraine stance ๐บ๐ฆ, and telling their citizens that's okay for them to flee conscription and mobilization into Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ? You'd think the Russians ๐ท๐บ would be more upset by that, and demanding the Mongolians ๐ฒ๐ณ walk back their statements, or threatening to sever ties with them or whatever. But, no, that's not happening. Why is that? Why are the Russians ๐ท๐บ just accepting this?
Well, my only guess is that Russia ๐ท๐บ still wants to maintain its influence over Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ. Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ has been in the Russian orbit ๐ท๐บ since the early 20th century, Russian is a dominant language in Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ even to this day. And the Russians ๐ท๐บ don't want to give that up, they don't want to lose Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ to China ๐จ๐ณ. The same competition or dilemma is playing out in Central Asia as well, with all the post-Soviet countries in that region, Kazakhstan ๐ฐ๐ฟ, Uzbekistan ๐บ๐ฟ, Turkmenistan ๐น๐ฒ, Tajikistan ๐น๐ฏ, and Kyrgyzstan ๐ฐ๐ฌ; those countries were all apart of the Soviet Union ☭, they were all constituent Soviet republics ☭, whereas Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ was simply a Soviet client state ☭, within the Eastern Bloc. This is all the result of Russia ๐ท๐บ not realizing that it's a declining power, and that it's the junior partner to China ๐จ๐ณ in this new "axis" against the West.
Speaking of China ๐จ๐ณ, Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ has sort of made the same calculation about China ๐จ๐ณ that they have Russia ๐ท๐บ, though it is a bit different. For one thing, Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ used to be apart of China, during the imperial era (China was even ruled by a Mongol dynasty at one point), for a brief time under the ROC ๐น๐ผ. But, after the Chinese ๐น๐ผ lost control of Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ again, this time to a Soviet-backed communist revolution ☭, and they were kind of forced to relinquish control of it for good. The Soviets ☭ forced them to recognize Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ's independence after World War II, and the Chinese ๐น๐ผ begrudgingly agreed because they didn't want to deal with the Soviet military ☭, especially when they had their own internal problems to deal with like the communist insurgency ☭ led by Mao Zedong.
Even after the communists ☭ took control and established the People's Republic of China ๐จ๐ณ (PRC), they made no attempts at retaking Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ because they were still friendly with the Soviets ☭, and respected their wishes to have an independent Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ, and even when they weren't, they still saw Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ as a convenient buffer zone separating them from the Soviets ☭. That BTW was also one of the big reasons why the Soviets ☭ didn't annex Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ themselves, despite the Mongolian communists ๐ฒ๐ณ☭ asking them to, because Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ was a convenient buffer separating them from China ๐จ๐ณ.
Though I should note that the Soviets ☭ had a nuclear deterrent ☢️, so Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ's role as a land buffer was rendered obsolete by the time the Soviets ☭ developed their own nuclear weapons ☢️ after World War II. China ๐จ๐ณ did not have nuclear weapons ☢️ until the 1960s, so Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ was still somewhat useful to them as a land buffer up until the 60s, when the Sino-Soviet Split ๐จ๐ณ☭ had happened and the Chinese ๐จ๐ณ at long last had their own nukes ☢️.
Plus, an independent Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ served the Soviets' ☭ interests just fine, annexing it was just unnecessary in their eyes. I'm kind of surprised that the Chinese ๐จ๐ณ or the Soviets didn't decide to also give Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ nukes ☢️, or use it as a platform to deploy their own nukes ☢️ to really enhance deterrence, and increase Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ's role as buffer. But, I suppose a nuclear-armed Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ☢️ really didn't serve either the Chinese ๐จ๐ณ or the Soviets' ☭ best interest, if it would've helped maintain Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ's role as a buffer state between the two communist juggernauts, especially during the Sino-Soviet Split ๐จ๐ณ☭.
(This is the flag of the Soviet Union ☭, or the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics ☭, or USSR ☭ short.)
And in modern times, in the post-Cold War world, Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ has still maintained pretty strong bilateral ties with China ๐จ๐ณ. They've participated in the Belt & Road Initiative (BRI), and the Chinese ๐จ๐ณ have developed infrastructure projects in the country. But, despite this, the Mongolians ๐ฒ๐ณ don't fully trust the Chinese ๐จ๐ณ or agree with everything they do or say, and recently, they've been trying to establish a closer and friendlier relationship with the United States ๐บ๐ธ.
But, similar to the Russians ๐ท๐บ, the Mongolians ๐ฒ๐ณ know they can't anger or alienate the Chinese ๐จ๐ณ too much, otherwise they might risk military retaliation against them, and the Mongolian military ๐ฒ๐ณ is definitely outmatched by the Chinese military ๐จ๐ณ in terms of size and power. And they also know that the Chinese ๐จ๐ณ could reassert their claim over their territory, and may take steps to reincorporate Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ into their territory again. Ever since Xi Jinping took power, he's been reasserting China ๐จ๐ณ's claim over certain territories based on historical precedent. And he's using his military, the People's Liberation Army (PLA), to intimidate his neighbors to try to reestablish control of those territories, and Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ could always be next. After all, Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ did used to belong to China, not to the PRC ๐จ๐ณ, but to past imperial dynasties; and the ROC ๐น๐ผ, but the PRC ๐จ๐ณ would rather you forget about that detail.
So, the Mongolians ๐ฒ๐ณ definitely want to stay on Xi's China ๐จ๐ณ's good side just they stay on Putin's Russia ๐ท๐บ's good side, and that's why they haven't been as forthright with the relationship with the Americans ๐บ๐ธ as they might've been otherwise. That's why Ulaanbaatar has been trying to stay on the good sides of both Moscow and Beijing, it's in their best interest to do so. When you're a landlocked country sandwiched in-between two major world powers who have imperialistic ambitions and could turn hostile at any time as Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ is, and your military forces aren't strong enough to resist either of them or both of them on their own without outside assistance that isn't guaranteed, you can't afford to be too assertive and make them angry at you.
At the same time though, don't be surprised if there's a scenario in which China ๐จ๐ณ invades Taiwan ๐น๐ผ, and starts forcefully conscripting Mongolians in Inner Mongolia to fight against Taiwan ๐น๐ผ (and the US ๐บ๐ธ and Japan ๐ฏ๐ต), and the Mongolian president ๐ฒ๐ณ (whoever that may be) puts out a video telling Mongolians from Inner Mongolia to come to Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ to avoid conscription into the Chinese military ๐จ๐ณ.
But anyway, I just thought that I would write this update telling you that Mongolia ๐ฒ๐ณ's relationship with Russia ๐ท๐บ (or China ๐จ๐ณ for that matter) isn't that cut and dry, that there are things that the Mongolians ๐ฒ๐ณ disagree with the Russians ๐ท๐บ on; the Ukraine war ๐บ๐ฆ being one of them. The video with the Mongolian president ๐ฒ๐ณ was brought my attention by another video by a YouTube channel called the Icarus Project, I'll link it down below. The Icarus Project is a pro-Ukrainian channel ๐บ๐ฆ that focuses a lot on making videos about Russia ๐ท๐บ, explaining why Russia ๐ท๐บ is the way it is, and the challenges that Russia ๐ท๐บ faces ever since it decided to invade Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ.
It's a pretty new YouTube channel, it barely started last year on September 20, 2022, and only has 24 videos, and the guy behind it admittedly talks in a very dry and monotone voice; which makes some of his sarcastic quips and jokes fall flat. I'm entirely sure if this channel is even really run by a real person or if it's an AI, or if it is a real person, but they use a fake computerized voice.
If it is indeed run by a real person using their real voice, they definitely edited out all the breaths in-between each sentence, which indicates a real person talking. Which is understandable. I do that too, or I used to when I still did YouTube videos because those breaths in-between sentences can be a bit distracting, but only if you really looking out of them; most people probably don't even notice or perceive those breaths.
But, anyway, concerns about the channel and the person who runs it aside, this video that I'm talking about talks about Siberia, and the people who live in, and the hardship that they've faced and continue to face at the hands of the Russians ๐ท๐บ. It is certainly eye opening, especially those unfamiliar with Russian history ๐ท๐บ or contemporary Russian politics ๐ท๐บ.
It definitely shows that Russia ๐ท๐บ really was no different from the other colonialist imperialist powers of centuries past, and was arguably worse or just as bad, especially during the Soviet period ☭, when the Soviet government ☭ took more heavy handed steps to suppress indigenous Siberian cultures and languages, and Russify these regions, and force the Soviet way ☭ of doing onto these Siberian peoples.
It definitely pokes in a hole in the narrative that Russia ๐ท๐บ is somehow an anti-imperialist power, trying to resist the clutches of colonialism. Of course, this isn't to excuse America ๐บ๐ธ and other Western or Western-aligned powers of the things they've done and continue to do in some cases, but it is to show the Russia ๐ท๐บ and China ๐จ๐ณ don't have legs to stand on as far as being "anti-colonialist" or "anti-imperialist."
They're imperialist, colonialist powers just like the rest of them, and they're even embarking on a neocolonialist project now in the 21st century, especially in places like Africa, Central Asia, the South China Sea, and of course, Siberia to name a few. On top of that, Russia ๐ท๐บ and China ๐จ๐ณ refuse to even acknowledge their past colonialist misdeeds, let alone their current colonialist and imperialist transgressions.
At least the US ๐บ๐ธ, Canada ๐จ๐ฆ, Australia ๐ฆ๐บ, and New Zealand ๐ณ๐ฟ are trying to make up for their misdeeds, and make things right with their indigenous populations, by acknowledging that they did wrongdoings and are trying to reconcile and build a better path for the future by granting indigenous people more rights, granting them more autonomy and self-determination, returning stolen lands, and recognizing their languages, and so on. It isn't perfect, there's still a long way to go, and there have certainly been setbacks; and some pretty severe setbacks at that in some cases. But, at least it's step in the right direction.
Russia ๐ท๐บ and China ๐จ๐ณ aren't doing any of that. They refuse to even acknowledge that they've done anything wrong throughout their history, and still like to paint themselves as the good guys in every situation. And they're continuing to commit these same transgressions (or worse) against their ethnic minorities and indigenous groups even to this day, while trying to present themselves to the outside world as "anti-imperialist" or "anti-colonialist."
It's sort of like how the Empire of Japan ๐ฏ๐ต tried to present itself as an anti-colonialist pan-Asian power trying to liberate Asia from the grasp of European and American imperialism and colonialism, but were themselves imperialists and colonialists, and were arguably way worse than the Europeans or Americans ๐บ๐ธ they were replacing.
At least, Japan ๐ฏ๐ต is on a better path now than it was during the days of the Empire, but they haven't fully acknowledged all of their wrongdoings during World War II or during their colonialist rule over places like Korea. And while they have made attempts to reconcile with the Ainu people in particular, those efforts have so far have left a lot to be desired; not the US ๐บ๐ธ is one to talk. But, anyway, it's better if you just watch the video yourself rather than just read my long-winded ramblings, so here you go:
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Link to the Icarus Project's video on Siberia:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4gMrVgIf120
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Update (Wednesday November 29, 2023):
๐จ๐ณ๐บ๐ธ
In the main part of the article, I talked about how China ๐จ๐ณ wants to help Russia ๐ท๐บ in the war in Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ, while taking as little risk as possible, that they want them to win, but not if it'll cost them economically, and they ultimately just leave it to pariah states like North Korea ๐ฐ๐ต and Iran ๐ฎ๐ท to provide Russia ๐ท๐บ direct military assistance. Well, I'm sure anyone reading that could ask, "Well, isn't that sort of like what the United States ๐บ๐ธ and the West as a whole is doing with Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ?"
Yes, you could say that China ๐จ๐ณ is essentially taking the same approach to Russia ๐ท๐บ that United States ๐บ๐ธ is taking with Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ. They're helping their preferred country to only to the extent that they won't negatively affected in any way. A lot of people have criticized the US ๐บ๐ธ for only providing incremental support to Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ, and not forming a coherent strategy around helping Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ win the war.
Ben Hodges harps about this all the time, in pretty much every interview he does about the war in Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ. He says that thinks that the Biden administration should say that "We want Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ to win," and forming a coherent strategy around helping Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ win, and providing them capabilities they need to win. Mainly, he just wants the US ๐บ๐ธ to provide Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ all of the military capabilities it needs to retake Crimea, because for him, Crimea is the decisive terrain as he calls it.
Once Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ retakes Crimea, then it'll essentially be all over for the Russians ๐ท๐บ. The Russian military ๐ท๐บ will lose one of its main apparatuses for power projection, and will greatly degraded. Putin's legitimacy back at home will greatly affected, and he will be forced to withdraw his forces, if his forces hadn't already retreated back into Russia ๐ท๐บ by that point, and Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ will have all of its territory back.
It's not as straightforward as he puts it, like retaking Crimea won't immediately end the war. But it will be an important step towards a Ukrainian victory ๐บ๐ฆ, and it will put Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ in a better position to regain all of its territory from Russia ๐ท๐บ. And losing Crimea will certainly hurt Putin and hurt the Russian military ๐ท๐บ, and will greatly limit their ability to project power in the wider world outside of Eastern Europe.
But, because the Biden administration hasn't done this, and hasn't declared that their goal is Ukrainian victory ๐บ๐ฆ, a lot of people have speculated that they don't actually want Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ to win. They think that they just want Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ to survive, but not win, and they want the Russians ๐ท๐บ to be weakened, but not collapse.
So, they've been trying to strike this balance of keeping the war going long enough to degrade Russia ๐ท๐บ's military capabilities, but not end too quickly to allow Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ to decisively win and regain all of its territory, and possibly lead to Russian collapse ๐ท๐บ. They don't want another Libya ๐ฑ๐พ or Syria ๐ธ๐พ situation. Russia ๐ท๐บ after all is a thousand times bigger than Libya ๐ฑ๐พ and Syria ๐ธ๐พ combined, and it has the world's largest nuclear weapon stockpile ☢️. So, that's why they think they've only been providing military aid to Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ incrementally, to keep Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ alive, but not win, so that the war will ultimately end in a stalemate and a negotiated settlement so that things can go back to the way things were.
While I do think is some merit to that theory, I don't think it's the entire reason why the United States ๐บ๐ธ hasn't provided everything Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ would theoretically need to win the war, and regain all of its territory. This theory neglects to mention the fear of escalation. Ever since the year started in 2022, the Biden administration has been fearful of Russian escalation ๐ท๐บ.
Like, if we provide Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ a certain weapon system or if we let Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ attack Russian territory ๐ท๐บ, then Russia ๐ท๐บ will escalate and might use nuclear weapons ☢️. Obviously, no body wants a nuclear war ☢️, except some crazy people, and no body in America ๐บ๐ธ wants to get directly involved the war, and have to deploy our own forces against Russia ๐ท๐บ, not even people who support Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ. After all, Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ and Afghanistan ๐ฆ๐ซ were both disasters.
So, the Biden admin just decides to impose arbitrary restrictions on itself and on Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ in how to prosecute the war. Telling them that they can't attack Russian territory ๐ท๐บ, and withholding certain weapon systems that they're afraid will upset Putin, and provoke him into going nuclear ☢️. You know, at least, until they finally muster up the courage to actually give Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ the weapons they were afraid would upset the Russians ๐ท๐บ, and provoke them into escalating the war, and then Russia ๐ท๐บ doesn't do anything. How that hasn't convinced the US ๐บ๐ธ or any other country that providing weapons to Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ is fine, and that Russia ๐ท๐บ won't do anything no matter what they say, I don't know. But, that's how it's been playing out.
So, in a sense, you could say that China ๐จ๐ณ is essentially approaching this war the same way the United States ๐บ๐ธ is. I've even heard people say more broadly that China ๐จ๐ณ and the United States ๐บ๐ธ share a lot of similarities. And yeah, there some similarities. They're both superpowers, or wannabe superpowers in the case of China ๐จ๐ณ. They're both risk averse, and want a world based on stability and predictability rather than a world based in chaos and unpredictability. One is clearly more risk averse than the other. And both try to morally grandstand, and act like they're morally superior to everyone else. China ๐จ๐ณ likes to pretend that it's morally superior to the United States ๐บ๐ธ certainly, even though by all measures, it isn't.
I've seen people try to compare the United States ๐บ๐ธ to Russia ๐ท๐บ, especially in regards to the road to war, and how they got there, and how it compares to the war in Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ. That's basically the thesis of Sarcasmitron's entire series on the Russo-Ukrainian War ๐ท๐บ๐บ๐ฆ. He concluded that Putin's foreign policy, and Russia ๐ท๐บ's warlike mentality right now is almost identical to Bush's foreign policy, and the United States ๐บ๐ธ's warlike mentality after 9/11. According to the thesis presented in his most recent video, America ๐บ๐ธ was essentially playing by Russia ๐ท๐บ's playbook with the Chechen Wars, and Russia ๐ท๐บ was playing by America ๐บ๐ธ's playbook with the Iraq War ๐ฎ๐ถ and the War in Afghanistan ๐ฆ๐ซ. These two countries were basically copying each other's homework so to speak, without either country realizing it or acknowledging it.
He even said that the war in Iraq ๐ฎ๐ถ was fought with the same goal in mind as the war in Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ: to end the international liberal order. And he also concluded that Putin's paranoia and his trajectory towards war with Georgia ๐ฌ๐ช and Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ can be traced back to a conspiracy theory dreamt up by a crazy American cult leader ๐บ๐ธ.
He even said that Russia ๐ท๐บ's hybrid warfare tactics that they used on Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ (specifically the war in Donbas) prior to the 2022 invasion, were born out of this conspiracy theory and Russia ๐ท๐บ trying to use it against the West. But, since they were based on a conspiracy theory that was pure fantasy, pure make believe, these hybrid warfare tactics didn't work as intended, and Russia ๐ท๐บ was forced to resort to conventional force invasions, one in 2014 (two if you count the annexation of Crimea at the start of the war) and one in 2022, which the one that's on-going right now. And yeah, there are a lot of similarities there too, in fact, there are arguably more similarities between America ๐บ๐ธ and Russia ๐ท๐บ than there are between America ๐บ๐ธ and China ๐จ๐ณ, especially in regards to their histories, their racism, and their horrific colonial pasts.
With that being said however, that would all be ignoring the huge differences. For one thing, the US ๐บ๐ธ is providing direct military aid to one side in the war, and is open and honest about it, China ๐จ๐ณ isn't. China ๐จ๐ณ isn't providing aid to either side in the war, and even if they are, they're being pretty secretive about it. There are some rumors that China ๐จ๐ณ is providing military aid to Russia ๐ท๐บ through third parties and through back channels, and I think the French secret service ๐ซ๐ท, the DGSE said something to that effect, but there is no concrete evidence that China ๐จ๐ณ is providing military aid to Russia ๐ท๐บ at this time.
So, for the sake of brevity, let's just say that China ๐จ๐ณ isn't providing Russia ๐ท๐บ any military aid, and is just letting North Korea ๐ฐ๐ต and Iran ๐ฎ๐ท do all that. Another big difference between the way China ๐จ๐ณ is handling the war in Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ and the way the US ๐บ๐ธ is handling the war in Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ is that China ๐จ๐ณ's hesitation to go all in is based on economic and reputational concerns, whereas the US ๐บ๐ธ's is based on concerns about escalation and regional stability.
The Chinese ๐จ๐ณ don't want the war to damage their economy any more than it already is, they don't want the war to turn Europe ๐ช๐บ against them, and they want Putin to stay in power. The Americans ๐บ๐ธ on the other hand, don't want the war to escalate beyond the borders of Ukraine ๐บ๐ฆ, and turn into a wider European war, or turn into a nuclear war ☢️, and they also don't want Russia ๐ท๐บ to collapse, and break apart or descend into civil war.
It's sort of similar to how Washington views the war in Gaza between Israel ๐ฎ๐ฑ and Hamas, and how they're approaching it. They don't want the war to escalate and turn into a wider regional war, and destabilize the Middle East. Some of these worries and concerns might overlap, but they're based on completely different calculuses. And we should recognize that in how we think about this war, and the different players that are involved.
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Link to Sarcasmitron's video about the American origins of Putin's madness ๐บ๐ธ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OFyn_KSy80
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